Deadline's interview at the Toronto International Film Festival (TIFF) and a portrait photo which was taken yesterday, 9th September.
While you were shooting, some photos of emerged of you in a
bathrobe, with two guns strapped to your wrists and furry monster
slippers on. Care to explain?
Yeah, you probably need some
context for that [laughs]. My character, Miles, is a very non-violent
person, but somebody who spends a lot of time and gets drawn to the
darker parts of the internet. He gets in an online fight that has very
real implications for him.
It’s such an insane film to talk about, but there’s basically a
terrorist organization called Schism that pits normal people against
each other in a fight to the death. I am basically forced into a fight
to the death with a much more experienced fighter called Nix, played by Samara Weaving.
The majority of the film is Miles doing everything he can to avoid
being killed by her. And then we join forces towards the end of the film
to defeat a larger enemy.
As far as that picture goes, my character wakes up after having been
kidnapped by this awful organization, and he realizes that they have
screwed and bolted two guns to his hands—including his index fingers,
which are screwed to the triggers. He gets sent into a waking nightmare
where he doesn’t really want to kill anybody or do anything particularly
violent, but he’s forced into fighting for his life as the film goes
on.
What I really enjoyed about it is it’s a crazy, very funny action
movie. It has a great sense of humor. It does one of the things that I
really enjoy in films, in that it can veer wildly from some genuinely
great, exciting, really cool action sequences, into some very intense
moments, into stuff that is just ridiculous and silly and fun, all very,
very quickly.
Ned Dennehy plays Riktor, who is the main bad guy of the film. He
gives an amazing performance that’s equal parts psychotic and hilarious.
And Samara is incredible as Nix. I feel like Jason [Lei Howden] created
an amazing character there. It’s just a really cool world. I’ve only
seen a rough cut so far; it’s being tinkered with right up to our
premiere in Toronto. But it goes a hundred miles an hour in the best
possible way.
One of the moments I fell in love with it is, obviously, you can have
somebody who has guns for hands, and it’s like, “OK, that’s a cool
premise, but what are you going to do with that?” Three pages into him
getting the guns on for the first time, there’s a scene with him trying
to negotiate how to use the toilet in his new situation. That was the
moment, reading the script, where I was like, “OK, I love this.” You’re
fully exploring what it would be like to have guns for hands in a way
that’s both funny and pathetic. I had an amazing time working out how to
do lots of very stupid stuff, like working out how to dress with guns
for hands. Those kinds of challenges were a lot of fun.
DEADLINE: Something for the resume. “Can dress with guns for hands.”
Yeah [laughs]. I’m sure there’s got to be loads of other uses for that, right?
DEADLINE: Tell me about the mad genius behind this film, Jason Lei Howden, who wrote and directed.
When I first talked to Jason, you could
tell there was a lot of him in the character of Miles. Jason comes from
visual effects—really painstaking work—and I think he feels about
himself the same way Miles feels about himself. Miles is a vegetarian,
Jason is a vegan. He’s this really interesting split between this guy
who is incredibly gentle, incredibly sweet, just a super chill dude, and
then the films he makes and the games he plays and what he loves. Jason
is all about metal, and really into gaming in a way that I don’t even
feel fully qualified to talk about, because I’ll just get it wrong.
There’s a scene in the film involving Twitch; Jason had to explain
Twitch to me. I didn’t know what it was.
I think this is a film really born out of Jason’s love of ’80s action
movies; Schwarzenegger and Van Damme—and shoot-’em-up games. It’s like a
Jason Statham movie directed by Edgar Wright. Insane action and
violence, but directed in this swanky, pop-art way. It reminded me a lot
of making Swiss Army Man and Horns. Every day you get
to work and they would have figured out weird, cool shots that really
let the cast and crew and everybody know, “Oh, we’re working on
something that could be really, really cool.”
DEADLINE: You mention those two films there. It’s definitely of a piece. It seems like you’re drawn to this stuff.
I do love finding those scripts. They’re
few and far between. I’ve read a lot of weird stuff that has been weird
for the sake of being weird, but that doesn’t really have anything tying
it together. But the lovely thing is, I’m at the point now, in my
career, where I have a bit of a reputation for liking this kind of
material, so I’m definitely on the list of people who get sent those
kinds of more out-there scripts. You’ll read five that are like, “What
is this?” But every so often there’s a Guns Akimbo or a Swiss Army Man, where you think, This is so crazy it might just work.
DEADLINE: Jason is from New Zealand. That sense of humor has
always suited a British palette, but it’s becoming more international.
Absolutely. Rhys Darby is in this film
and he goes full New Zealand, even though it’s set in America. If you
don’t know what kind of film you’re watching before, you will do when
you get to Rhys Darby’s scenes [laughs].
It’s not necessarily the most mainstream kind of comedy in America, but Flight of the Conchords had
a massive following here, and Taika Waititi is everybody’s favorite
director of Marvel movies. One of the nice things about the fact that
films are coming from more places now is that our sense of humor—the
British and New Zealand sensibility—has become homogenized in a good
way, where we can all get each other’s jokes a bit more.
DEADLINE: You’ve been fortunate in your career to have those poles between crazy comedy and then the dark drama of an Imperium or Kill Your Darlings. How important is that mix?
I try to find it as much as I can. If I
ever felt I was doing the same thing again—or doing one thing for too
long—I would start to feel like I was resting on my laurels a little bit
or getting complacent. I think it’s how I enjoy my job the most. The
more variety you can find, the more fulfilling your work as an actor.
Frankly, I’ve been lucky to have started my career in the way I did with Potter,
and to have the opportunities it gave me from then on. For every
director out there who didn’t want to cast me because they felt there
was too much baggage from Potter—which I can understand and
totally get—there was another that was excited for the chance to do
something weird and unexpected with me that people wouldn’t have seen
before.
I’ve been lucky to have had those opportunities—like doing Endgame at the Old Vic at the end of the year. That’s the Samuel Beckett play, by the way—I have to say that now, since Avengers came
out [laughs]. As long as people are going to keep giving me
opportunities to try different, weird stuff, I’m going to keep grabbing
them.
DEADLINE: Has the call of the other side of the industry been felt? You’ve produced a little bit. Would you write or direct?
I’d be very interested in writing and
directing. It’s getting to the stage where I’ve been thinking that for
so long that I had better do something about it. I always used to have
it in my head that I’d pop off for a month or two and direct something
in between projects. Now, I have a much better understanding of what the
reality of that is. So if I find a project I want to direct, I know
I’ll have to say, “OK, no acting for me for the next year. I’m just
going to focus solidly on pre-production to get this made.” I wouldn’t
want to half-heart it. You hear a lot of stories about actors who direct
who just suddenly turn up on set and everyone else has to make the film
around them. I don’t want to be one of those people.
Producing interests me. I am a producer on Miracle Workers.
But I’m only really involved in a producorial capacity before we start.
As soon as filming begins, I’m just an actor, pretty much. I’m into the
casting and the writing process, but once we start production I feel I’m
an actor more than anything else.
I love being on set so much, and I love working with all the
different departments in my capacity as an actor, so I’d love to work
with all those departments as a director. I think I’d be OK at it. It’d
be a learning curve, obviously, but I think I’d be all right.
DEADLINE: You worked with an actor who directed for the first time. Woody Harrelson, on his movie Lost in London, which was a feature film shot and transmitted live, in real time. It blows my mind he chose that for his first feature.
Yeah, it was a military operation. I
don’t know Woody as well as a lot of people know Woody. It’s crazy that
anybody did this, but I think it’s crazier that Woody did it. But Woody
is hyper f*cking intelligent, but he’s also so f*cking chill. The stress
of organizing… I think it was 30 different sound guys alone, without
even considering how many camera people there were…
My bit of it was actually really easy. It was all pre-recorded. The
story of that night with Woody is, the day after the story took place in
real life was the first time I met Woody, aged 12, when he came out to
the set of Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. The day
after he left, all these stories came out in the papers of this crazy
night he’d had in London. At some point that came up between Woody and
I, and he was like, “Would you just tell that story as the epilogue to Lost in London?” So I had the easiest job on the entire film.
I wonder if we’ll see more of that kind of stuff, or if it was so
hard to do that it’ll never be a real business proposition for anybody.
But Woody is a really cool guy, and he’s very special. Ever since I did Now You See Me 2 with
him, literally every single piece of theater I’ve done since then, he
has come and he has supported. He’s just incredibly kind and loyal.
source: deadline.com
picture source: Chris Chapman
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